Mex Martillo
3:24 Sat Feb 18
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A few more stats
Mins playered (prem) calleri 205, fletcher 322
Goals calleri 1 fletcher 0
Assists calleri 0 fletcher 0
Goals conceded whilst playing calleri 3 fletcher 10
Clean sheets (over whole game) calleri 0 fletcher 0
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Hermit Road
3:22 Sat Feb 18
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Braderz,
We could sign him for £20k tomorrow because he's shit. If he had done well though we'd be fucked because we wouldn't have the option to sign. Unlike Lanzini.
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One Raducioiu!
3:08 Sat Feb 18
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I actually like the look of Calleri. He's a talented player who will go on to have a really good career. Probably not with us, probably not in the Premier League. But he is a good player.
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The Ghost of Braderz
2:07 Sat Feb 18
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Alex V 12:20 Sat Feb 18
I'm pretty sure we could sign him for £2.5m if we bid tomorrow.
Stick to HTML.
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Mex Martillo
2:04 Sat Feb 18
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I found these stats on appearences, I do not think it shows any favourism between Calleri and Fletcher? Over all, both getting opportunites and not sure if either is really looking good / coming out on top..
Calleri 9 apps
2. Round 21/08/2016 West Ham - Bournemouth 1:0
3. Round 28/08/2016 Manchester City - West Ham 3:1
4. Round 10/09/2016 West Ham -Watford 2:4
5. Round 17/09/2016 West Bromw - West Ham 4:2
8. Round 15/10/2016 C. Palace - West Ham 0:1
9. Round 22/10/2016 West Ham - Sunderland 1:0
22. Round 21/01/2017 Middlesbrough - West Ham 1:3 Goal
24. Round 04/02/2017 Southampton - West Ham 1:3
25. Round 11/02/2017 West Ham - West Brom 2:2
Fletcher 13 apps
2. Round 21/08/2016 West Ham - Bournemouth 1:0
3. Round 28/08/2016 Man City - West Ham 3:1 yellow card
4. Round 10/09/2016 West Ham - Watford 2:4
5. Round 17/09/2016 West Brom - West Ham 4:2
6. Round 25/09/2016 West Ham - Southampton 0:3
9. Round 22/10/2016 West Ham - Sunderland 1:0
11. Round 05/11/2016 West Ham - Stoke 1:1
13. Round 27/11/2016 Man United - West Ham 1:1
14. Round 03/12/2016 West Ham - Arsenal 1:5 yellow card
16. Round 14/12/2016 West Ham - Burnley 1:0
18. Round 26/12/2016 Swansea - West Ham 1:4
21. Round 14/01/2017 West Ham - C Palace 3:0
23. Round 01/02/2017 West Ham - Man City 0:4
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Spandex Sidney
12:43 Sat Feb 18
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I think, like Tore and Zaza, Callieri is one of Bilic's 'mates' and he's desperate to see him come good before the end of the season.
He does seem to operate a 'favourites' policy.
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Sven Roeder
12:34 Sat Feb 18
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As Alex says there is no option to buy and the 'trial' has proved that Calleri is WELL short of the necessary quality and will never be up to it.
The sensible option is to give Fletcher the opportunities that Calleri has had and get a feeling as to whether he will be good enough to understudy Carroll next season.
A crucial decision due to Carroll's FITNESS ISSUES.
We should be thinking about next seasons strikers now especially given the records of Carroll and Sahko in getting on the pitch.
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Alex V
12:20 Sat Feb 18
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>>> Calleri is being trialed. Much like Lanzini was. And much like Zaza was. Those who "can't understand" why he's here probably also have trouble using a knife and fork.
You seem to have missed the key issue - that unlike Zaza and Lanzini, we have no option to buy with Calleri. Makes all the difference - the whole issue is what's the point trialling a player we can't even necessarily buy?
Stick to cutlery.
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Hermit Road
10:07 Sat Feb 18
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"Calleri is being trialed. Much like Lanzini was. And much like Zaza was. Those who "can't understand" why he's here probably also have trouble using a knife and fork."
This is the premier league though, and all the games are high stakes. Trials are for teenagers and training sessions. Lanzini earned his ace in the team from the off. You could see immediately what he brought.
As for understanding why he's here, I get that. It's because our owners are cheap and don't push the boat out so had to get numbers in quickly. As for understanding why he's on the pitch, that's beyond me.
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Any Old Iron
12:46 Sat Feb 18
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For a horrible moment I thought this was a contemporary version of the Trevor Morley and Ian Bishop tie-up.
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Texas Iron
11:54 Fri Feb 17
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Calleri would be better as second striker with Carroll...
But difficult to drop anyone for him to start ...except maybe Feghouli...
However if chasing the game and we need a goal putting him on with Carroll...worth a try...
The reason he probably shows up good in training is that defenders obviously don't tackle hard like the opposition do on match days...he gets more time to get into scoring positions and score...
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The Ghost of Braderz
11:28 Fri Feb 17
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Fletcher has suffered from a lack of game time and his momentum was interrupted by Slavs insistence on trying out Calleri. Personally, from each of their first couple matches i thought both could add something to the team. Calleri was deemed useless by 99% of fans and Fletcher was the next best thing. Apparently that's changed now. Calleri will get another few months to shine and if he doesn't that'll be it. I think Bilic knows what Fletcher can do and will want him under contract at West Ham for the foreseeable future.
Calleri is being trialed. Much like Lanzini was. And much like Zaza was. Those who "can't understand" why he's here probably also have trouble using a knife and fork.
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Blunders
3:42 Fri Feb 17
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mystifies me too
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Trevor B
11:11 Fri Feb 17
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If????? haha
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Robson
11:06 Fri Feb 17
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If Carroll gets injured and Fletcher still doesn't get a chance, I think we can safely assume Bilic hasn't seen enough to convince.
Hopefully we have to wait a good while to find out.
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norwich hammer
10:52 Fri Feb 17
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You only have to read on here to see the split, it's incredible, don't rate Calleri but then again have not seen enough of him. It's going to be hard to get someone decent as when fit he will play Carroll and you cannot argue against that. Would like to see Carroll and Fletcher given a run,think he would feed off the big man well.
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gph
10:13 Fri Feb 17
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Geoff Hurst = converted midfielder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Hurst
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Vexed
9:47 Fri Feb 17
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I'd take a bag of cement over Fletcher to be honest.
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Mex Martillo
9:29 Fri Feb 17
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So Syd, Do you think Calleri on the pitch increased our chances of scoring, even though he did not directly contribut to the goals?
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Syd Puddefoot
11:20 Thu Feb 16
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I thought Calleri showed a wee bit of promise in patches on Saturday (not the most glowing tribute I accept) and I would be interested to see him in a run of games in the absence of Carroll or Sakho. Certainly I would have him or Fetcher (who has yet to convince in his cameos despite flashes of early promise) up front rather than a converted midfielder such as Snodgrass or Antonio. Would the end result have been different against West Brom if we had stared with Calleri I wonder?
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Mex Martillo
9:09 Thu Feb 16
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i think Bilic prefers Calleri in a more isolated role up against a defense made up of big fuckers that push you about. Perhaps against a a more football orientated team he would use Fletcher.
But in reality it comes down to how they are in training, perhaps Calleri knocks them in no problem in training?
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